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    Goalline Technology - LOI

    Now that it has been introduced, will we ever see the light of it in the LOI? FIFA will pay for it for their tournaments, so should the FAI pay for it to be used here?

    Whether we ever have it at home, hopefully this will see off the ridiculous experiment of refs behind the goals, who rarely had any impact on any game.

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    Could probably see it at The Aviva, wouldn't hold my breath on seeing it at any LOI grounds though.

    Not 100% on this, but wasn't there two "pilot models" put forward to FIFA. One was Hawk Eye by the British company and there was another one by a German/Austrian company? (Could be wrong on the latter). But I think both were based on camera's fitted on the roof of the stand. Would that work in LOI?

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    Get a premier league with clean jacks is impossible never mind goal line technology.
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    Well it's gonna cost each EPL team about £250,000 to have it installed in their ground.

    So, based on that little fact, do YOU think it'll ever be part of the LOI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    Whether we ever have it at home, hopefully this will see off the ridiculous experiment of refs behind the goals, who rarely had any impact on any game.
    Unfortunately not according to reports I've read. They're being kept as a sop to Platini

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    The makers of GoalRef and HawkEye goal line technology have told Rangers they can't use the system next season....apparently it doesn't work with jumpers for goal posts.
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    Can't see it coming to the LOI any time soon. Might end up having to get it at Tallaght for Uefa games if they update their licensing criteria sometime in the future though. I wonder will they give grants for it in that case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by craftyhoop View Post
    Can't see it coming to the LOI any time soon. Might end up having to get it at Tallaght for Uefa games if they update their licensing criteria sometime in the future though. I wonder will they give grants for it in that case?
    This will almost definitely become part of the UEFA licensing in years to come. Probably only from the playoff round up mind.

    I can't see it ever being a feature of the regular LOI, sure half the time there's an incident MNS don't even have a second camera angle to go to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craftyhoop
    Can't see it coming to the LOI any time soon. Might end up having to get it at Tallaght for Uefa games if they update their licensing criteria sometime in the future though. I wonder will they give grants for it in that case?
    Well unless we get those stands in behind the goals, they can't use Hawkeye, which needs roofs for them to operate, and currently only Cork's ground has the infrastructure to support it in the LOI. So the goalref "magnetic field" system would have to be used in Tallaght, until we have roofed stands behind the goals. UEFA will probably have to pay for it, as we can't, and SDCC won't bother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    Well unless we get those stands in behind the goals, they can't use Hawkeye, which needs roofs for them to operate, and currently only Cork's ground has the infrastructure to support it in the LOI. So the goalref "magnetic field" system would have to be used in Tallaght, until we have roofed stands behind the goals. UEFA will have to pay for it, as we can't, and SDCC won't bother.
    Does it reflect up off the roof or what way does it work. Only saw a brief flash of it on SSN alright where they had some sort of devices high up in the stands. Could they not just put them on big poles?

    Will be interesting to see what way the financial aspect of it works alright if the situation arises. Be some caper if all the clubs are getting their grounds up to Uefa standard only to find out the standard has moved on and we have to play in the aviva or something anyway. Gonna be a nice few dollars in it for whoever installs the devices in Engerland... be some nice brown envelopes going in to whichever blazer committee picks the contractor i dare say

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    Sure there is no need for it here.
    LoI match officials are shit hot and the best in the world.
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    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...319512333.html

    The Irish Times - Friday, July 6, 2012


    Long time coming but . . .




    CARL O'MALLEY suggests that due to goal-line technology costs it will not be seen in Ireland any time soon


    GOAL-LINE TECHNOLOGY was a long time coming, now the wait for it to be implemented in Ireland could be interminable.


    The decision yesterday of the International FA Board (Ifab) to sanction the use of technology to assist referees will be welcomed by most. Domestically, however, Irish teams are unlikely to benefit from it for some time, given the financial and logistical constraints Airtricity League clubs operate under.


    The FAI declined to officially comment on the decision last night but the association’s board will meet to discuss the implications for Irish football, which look certain to be minimal for now.


    The systems approved – Hawk-Eye and GoalRef – will be used for the first time by Fifa in the Club World Cup in Japan in December and after that in next year’s Confederations Cup and then the 2014 World Cup in Brazil.


    There is no obligation, therefore, on the FAI or any other association to introduce either system for the World Cup qualifiers, which is just as well considering the implementation of either product could cost in the region of €200,000 after a year in which the FAI’s surplus was €1.17 million.


    The cost, though, could be shouldered by the FAI, but it is obviously the main reason Airticity League clubs will not be entertaining the idea of adopting technology any time soon, given that the Premier Division champions this year will receive just €100,000 and that many clubs struggle just to pay players and stay afloat in the current climate.


    The Ifab’s response to the cost of the systems last night was rather hollow, with both Fifa general secretary Jerome Valcke and counterpart in the FA Alex Horne highlighting “plasma screens” as an example of technology that began its shelf-life exorbitantly expensive but grew ever more affordable over a relatively short space of time.


    While Fifa will cover the costs of installing the systems for the aforementioned tournaments and leave the venues with the technology, poorer associations need not hold out hope for a dig out. “The poorer federations have other issues, and we are working with them on various programs to support them,” said Valcke last night.


    “The issue of the goal-line technology is not the most important issue for them today.”


    Even if there was financial assistance, it is debatable whether grounds in the league would be capable of housing the technology. During Hawk-Eye testing at Southampton’s St Mary’s Stadium in May, for example, 14 high-speed cameras were perched on the stands around the ground to make sure “all angles” were covered.


    There would likely be significant logistical impediments to housing that sort of hardware at any number of Irish football venues, such is the condition of some stadiums in the league.


    There would also be the issue of security, given the value of the systems, and the cost of implementing either one would therefore increase further with the necessity to improve stadiums sufficiently before paying for the technology that would have to be introduced in all grounds if it was introduced in one.


    As it stands, of course, it’s not really something to worry too much about for Irish domestic football and the silence of the FAI and the Airtricity League (director Fran Gavin was also unavailable for comment) last night confirms as much.


    With Uefa president Michel Platini currently opposed to technology and prepared to persist with extra officials beside the goal-line, there is no immediate external pressure for change.


    Should he be won over or come under pressure from the powerful stakeholders in European football, who will no doubt implement change in the meantime, the FAI and domestic league may have some difficult and expensive decisions to make at a time when a good European run can make such a dramatic difference to domestic coffers.




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    Most countries have goal line technology now, and it's been a great weapon to clear up borderline decisions. Sadly we don't have it in LOI yet, but we live in hope.

    Now Platini has gone though, we have a new FIFA President who is finally about to bring in video technology into the game, that will shortly be tested, before been formally introduced. (He also rubber stamped the use of goalline technology for the European club finals this year). Again, it's unlikely we'll have it in our league due to the lack of tv coverage available. But we may have it in European games, as the need for extra officials behind the goals will be then rendered obsolete. How it will work in the early qualifying rounds will be an issue if Setanta won't show them. (Forget RTE, they're not interested). But we still need it, possibly the FAI could even subsidise the cost of putting it in grounds, but it definitely is on the way, and the sooner we're able to use it, the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    Most countries have goal line technology now, and it's been a great weapon to clear up borderline decisions. Sadly we don't have it in LOI yet, but we live in hope.

    Now Platini has gone though, we have a new FIFA President who is finally about to bring in video technology into the game, that will shortly be tested, before been formally introduced. (He also rubber stamped the use of goalline technology for the European club finals this year). Again, it's unlikely we'll have it in our league due to the lack of tv coverage available. But we may have it in European games, as the need for extra officials behind the goals will be then rendered obsolete. How it will work in the early qualifying rounds will be an issue if Setanta won't show them. (Forget RTE, they're not interested). But we still need it, possibly the FAI could even subsidise the cost of putting it in grounds, but it definitely is on the way, and the sooner we're able to use it, the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    Most countries have goal line technology now,
    that's a lie

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