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    Quote Originally Posted by green ribbon View Post
    I don't think it will happen.
    Can't see it happening myself. Two old todgers going at it won't make for good ratings IMO. Just a publicity stunt. that family craves attention remember.

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    Collins must be hard up for money. Roy Jones is still fighting. He beat some unbeaten Polish bloke last summer. He's gone the distance in a lot of his last few fights.

    Jones looked a bit puzzeled when asked about this fight. But isnt going to turn down a big pay day. Only way it will be a big pay day is if its in this country

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    Agree with Ste there, the guy must be broke. You don't wait 16 years in retirement and then get back in the ring unless you are broke, simple as. There's only one George Foreman, nobody will replicate what he done and George just happened to be the heaviest handed fighter in history, that's the only reason he did what he did.

    I worry for Steve if he gets in with Roy. As Ste has mentioned Roy is still active, Collins is 16 years out. There may be only 4 years in age difference but when you take into account Collins' ring absence that age gap is more like 10+ years.

    Roy has a bad chin and that's why Colllins thinks he can shatter it but if there are odds going for Collins not to land a clean punch I'll be all over it. And yes, I will watch this fight if it happens.................WAR Collins
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    Was he not taken to the cleaners by his ex? Double bonus for her, took his cash now maybe he'll get battered in the run as well!

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    A thorough history of the Collins family!


    http://www.turtlebunbury.com/intervi...e_collins.html



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    The Super Middleweights talk it out. Collins doesnt come across well. While Calzaghe, Woodhall, Eubank and Jones come across as respectful yet competitive Collins sounds like a bully:







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    http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...rrison-dies-44


    Tommy Morrison dies at 44


    Former WBO heavyweight champion Tommy Morrison died in an Omaha, Neb., hospital late Sunday night. He was 44.

    Morrison's longtime promoter, Tony Holden, said Morrison died at 11:50 p.m. with his wife, Trisha, beside him.

    Morrison tested positive for HIV in 1996 before a fight with Arthur Weathers, effectively ending his boxing career. In the years that followed, he denied having HIV and also challenged the existence of the virus.

    Trisha Morrison, who married Morrison in 2011, picked up that fight, and in a recent interview with ESPN.com insisted that Morrison had Guillain-Barre Syndrome, not HIV.

    Holden declined to comment Monday on the cause of Morrison's death.

    "I don't know what the official cause of death at the hospital will be," he said.

    "You prepare for things like this, and still you feel like you got hit by a truck when you hear the news."

    In 1993, Morrison beat George Foreman to win the WBO heavyweight title, only to lose it to unheralded Michael Bentt in a defeat that scuttled a showdown with Lennox Lewis. Morrison would fight Lewis in 1995, getting knocked out in the sixth round in Atlantic City, N.J.

    Morrison won his first 28 professional fights, beating faded champions such as Pinklon Thomas along the way. His career reached its apex in the summer of 1993 with the unanimous decision over Foreman, then in the midst of a comeback, to claim a vacant title.

    Morrison's license was quickly suspended in 1996 by Nevada after his positive HIV test, and the ban was, in effect, upheld by every other sanctioning body. Morrison said at a news conference he'd never fight again, blaming his plight on a "permissive, fast and reckless lifestyle.''

    His lifestyle never changed, though, even when he stepped away from the ring.

    He had already run afoul of the law in 1993, when he pleaded guilty to assaulting a college student. He also dealt with weapons charges and multiple DUI incidents over the years. He was sentenced to two years in prison in 2000, and another year was added to his sentence in 2002 for violating parole.

    When he was released, Morrison said his HIV tests had resulted in false positives, and he wanted to resume his career. He passed medical tests in Arizona -- even as Nevada stood by its decision -- and returned to the ring. Morrison fought twice more in his career, winning once in West Virginia and for the final time in Mexico. He finished with a record of 48-3-1 with 42 knockouts.

    He also gained fame for his role in the 1990 movie "Rocky V," in which he portrayed Tommy Gunn, a rookie boxer who is trained by Rocky Balboa (Sylvester Stallone). Gunn goes on to win the heavyweight title and then later fights and loses to his mentor.

    Morrison was born in Arkansas and grew up in Oklahoma.




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    Chris Eubank on ITV4 tonight at 10 on Sports Life Stories.


    http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/othe...really-2934878

    Chris Eubank: Nigel Benn really won our Judgement Day rematch even though the judges gave a draw
    16 Dec 2013 22:30

    The legendary British super-middleweight admits that his great rival should have been given the decision at Old Trafford




    Three kings: Super-middleweight legends Nigel Benn, Michael Watson and Chris Eubank

    Chris Eubank has admitted he should have lost his Judgement Day rematch with Nigel Benn.

    The two British super-middleweights fought out a famous draw at Old Trafford in October 1993 in front of a worldwide audience.

    Eubank controversially kept his WBC belt but speaking 20 years after the showdown, the 47-year-old said the Dark Destroyer deserved to win.

    “Five hundred million people watched that fight,” Eubank told ITV4’s Sports Life Stories.

    “You could say that there was still a psychological game going on. I had him where I wanted him. That’s what I thought.

    “ Benn was on his game for that second fight, he was on his game. I could not pin him down, I was hitting everything but him. The oxygen, but not him.

    "Even though he hit me low and lost a point, he still did enough to win the fight. And a fighter knows.”

    Eubank also claimed he only won the affection of the British boxing public when he started to lose late in his career.

    “This was in ‘98. In ‘91 didn’t I show this heart? But you only recognised it when I lost. Strange, but wonderful.”

    Chris Eubank: Sports Life Stories is on ITV4 at 10pm on Tuesday




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    Poor aul John Joe Nevin on the wrong end of a broken leg.

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    http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...carter-dies-76

    Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter dies at 76

    Updated: April 20, 2014, 3:54 PM ET
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    TORONTO -- Rubin "Hurricane'' Carter, the boxer whose wrongful murder conviction became an international symbol of racial injustice, died Sunday at 76.

    John Artis, a longtime friend and caregiver, told The Canadian Press that Carter died in his sleep Sunday. Carter had been stricken with prostate cancer in Toronto, the New Jersey native's adopted home.

    Carter spent 19 years in prison for three murders at a tavern in Paterson, New Jersey, in 1966. He was convicted alongside Artis in 1967 and again in a new trial in 1976.

    Carter was freed in November 1985 when his convictions were set aside after years of appeals and public advocacy. His ordeal and the alleged racial motivations behind it were publicized in Bob Dylan's 1975 song "Hurricane,'' several books and a 1999 film starring Denzel Washington, who received an Academy Award nomination for playing the boxer turned prisoner.

    Carter's murder convictions abruptly ended the boxing career of a former petty criminal who became an undersized middleweight contender largely on ferocity and punching power.

    Although never a world champion, Carter went 27-12-1 with 19 knockouts, memorably stopping two-division champ Emile Griffith in the first round in 1963. He also fought for a middleweight title in December 1964, losing a unanimous decision to Joey Giardello.

    In June 1966, three white people were shot by two black men at the Lafayette Bar and Grill in Paterson. Carter and Artis were convicted by an all-white jury largely on the testimony of two thieves who later recanted their stories.

    Carter was granted a new trial and briefly freed in 1976, but sent back for nine more years after being convicted in a second trial.

    Thom Kidrin, who became friends with Carter after visiting him several times in prison, told The Associated Press the boxer "didn't have any bitterness or anger -- he kind of got above it all. That was his great strength.''

    "I wouldn't give up,'' Carter said in an interview with PBS in 2011. "No matter that they sentenced me to three life terms in prison. I wouldn't give up. Just because a jury of 12 misinformed people ... found me guilty did not make me guilty. And because I was not guilty, I refused to act like a guilty person.''

    Dylan became aware of Carter's plight after reading the boxer's autobiography. He met Carter and co-wrote "Hurricane,'' which he performed on his Rolling Thunder Revue tour in 1975. The song concludes: "That's the story of the Hurricane/But it won't be over till they clear his name/And give him back the time he's done/Put him in a prison cell but one time he could-a been/The champion of the world.''


    WashingtonGod bless Rubin Carter and his tireless fight to ensure justice for all.
    ” -- Denzel Washington, who portrayed Rubin Carter in a 1999 film

    Muhammad Ali also spoke out on Carter's behalf, while advertising art director George Lois and other celebrities also worked toward Carter's release.

    With a network of friends and volunteers also advocating for him, Carter eventually won his release from U.S. District Judge H. Lee Sarokin, who wrote that Carter's prosecution had been "predicated upon an appeal to racism rather than reason, and concealment rather than disclosure.''

    Born on May 6, 1937, into a family of seven children, Carter struggled with a hereditary speech impediment and was sent to a juvenile reform center at 12 after an assault. He escaped and joined the Army in 1954, experiencing racial segregation and learning to box while in West Germany.

    Carter then committed a series of muggings after returning home, spending four years in various state prisons. He began his pro boxing career in 1961 after his release, winning 20 of his first 24 fights mostly by stoppage.

    Carter was fairly short for a middleweight at 5-foot-8, but his aggression and high punch volume made him effective.

    His shaved head and menacing glower gave him an imposing ring presence, but also contributed to a menacing aura outside the ring. He was also quoted as joking about killing police officers in a 1964 story in the Saturday Evening Post which was later cited by Carter as a cause of his troubles with police.

    Carter boxed regularly on television at Madison Square Garden and overseas in London, Paris and Johannesburg. Although his career appeared to be on a downswing before he was implicated in the murders, Carter was hoping for a second middleweight title shot.

    Carter and Artis were questioned after being spotted in the area of the murders in Carter's white car, which vaguely matched witnesses' descriptions. Both cited alibis and were released, but were arrested months later. A case relying largely on the testimony of thieves Alfred Bello and Arthur Bradley resulted in a conviction in June 1967.

    Carter defied his prison guards from the first day of his incarceration, spending time in solitary confinement because of it.

    "When I walked into prison, I refused to wear their stripes,'' Carter said. "I refused to eat their food. I refused to work their jobs, and I would have refused to breathe the prison's air if I could have done so.''

    Carter eventually wrote and spoke eloquently about his plight, publishing his autobiography, "The Sixteenth Round,'' in 1974. Benefit concerts were held for his legal defense.

    After his release, Carter moved to Toronto, where he served as the executive director of the Association in Defence of the Wrongly Convicted from 1993 to 2005. He received two honorary doctorates for his work.

    Director Norman Jewison made Carter's story into a well-reviewed biographical film, with Washington working closely alongside Carter to capture the boxer's transformation and redemption. Washington won a Golden Globe for the role.

    "This man right here is love,'' Washington said while onstage with Carter at the Golden Globes ceremony in early 2000. "He's all love. He lost about 7,300 days of his life, and he's love. He's all love.''

    On Sunday, when told of Carter's death, Washington said in a statement: "God bless Rubin Carter and his tireless fight to ensure justice for all.''

    But the makers of "The Hurricane'' were widely criticized for factual inaccuracies and glossing over other parts of Carter's story, including his criminal past and a reputation for a violent temper. Giardello sued the film's producers for its depiction of a racist fix in his victory over Carter, who acknowledged Giardello deserved the win.

    Carter's weight and activity dwindled during his final months, but he still advocated for prisoners he believed to be wrongfully convicted.

    Carter wrote an opinion essay for the New York Daily News in February, arguing vehemently for the release of David McCallum, convicted of a kidnapping and murder in 1985. Carter also briefly mentioned his health, saying he was "quite literally on my deathbed.''

    "Now I'm looking death straight in the eye,'' Carter wrote. "He's got me on the ropes, but I won't back down.''

    Kidrin said Carter would be cremated, with some of the ashes given to his family. Two sisters are among Carter's survivors, though Kidrin said Carter was alienated from many relatives.

    Kidrin planned to sprinkle Carter's remains in the ocean off Cape Cod, where they spent the last three summers together. Artis planned to bring some of the ashes to a horse farm in Kentucky the boxer loved.

    Kidrin spoke with Carter on Wednesday.

    "He said, 'You know, look, death's coming. I'm ready for it. But it's really going to have to take me because I'm positive to the end.'''




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