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    Maybe his depression has nothing to do with the killing,
    Although the fact that his family still love and support him could mean that there a lot of mitigating circumstances here.
    Any he is only charged at the moment, not found guilty (YET)
    So lets not hang the poor fecker yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jam Mat View Post
    Maybe his depression has nothing to do with the killing,
    Although the fact that his family still love and support him could mean that there a lot of mitigating circumstances here.
    Any he is only charged at the moment, not found guilty (YET)
    So lets not hang the poor fecker yet.
    Not hanging anyone, but it's very, very strange. Mickey Harte didn't seem to give a flying fuck about the two lads who were up for his daughter's murder, were treated quite badly by the cops – and eventually found NOT guilty.

    Now we have a lad who seems 100% guilty of murder and everyone wants to mollycoddle him and find excuses. Really bizarre stuff. Does his family maybe still support him so much because the Da was a bollocks who's had it coming to him for years??? I'm confused.

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    In fairness now I'm sure (but can't be certain) mickey harte was not aware of any mistreatment to the two accussed at the time.

    With regards to the lad up north, it would appear that what happened was a big tragedy rather than something sinister if you know what I mean. And maybe this person's mental health problems are so severe that without the support of his family then it may escalate to an even greater tragedy.

    As for Mickey Harte, Fair play to him, considering what he has had to endure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jam Mat View Post
    In fairness now I'm sure (but can't be certain) mickey harte was not aware of any mistreatment to the two accussed at the time.
    The whole world knew about it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jam Mat View Post
    With regards to the lad up north, it would appear that what happened was a big tragedy rather than something sinister if you know what I mean. And maybe this person's mental health problems are so severe that without the support of his family then it may escalate to an even greater tragedy.
    Is nobody talking about the murder victim??? Everyone seems only worried about the murderer. And being depressed doesn't mean that you are more likely to suddenly kill someone. To suggest this would be a gross insult to all sufferers of depression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karlsruhe hoop View Post
    The whole world knew about it.




    Is nobody talking about the murder victim??? Everyone seems only worried about the murderer. And being depressed doesn't mean that you are more likely to suddenly kill someone. To suggest this would be a gross insult to all sufferers of depression.
    I never knew about it!!!
    I' never suggested that being depressed means that a person is more likly to suddenly kill someone.
    The even greater tragedy I was leaning towards was that the lad might kill HIMSELF
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    More nonsense from the GAA – still in complete denial regarding the levels of violence at games. You don't get sent off – you get substituted. Brilliant. So if we had that rule in football and Rovers still had Pat Flynn – we could send him on at the start of the game to kick lumps out of someone, and when the referee has enough, he is simply substituted. Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant! Have I been asleep for a few months – is today the 1st of April by any chance???

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    GAA propose introduction of 'black card' to stamp out cynical fouls

    THE GAA will look to introduce 'black card' offences in a bid to stamp out some of the more cynical behaviour in Gaelic football for the 2014 season.

    Following discussion between the Rules Advisory Committee and the Football Review Committee (FRC), a motion has been drawn up that will be put before Congress in Derry in March.

    The proposed motion sees a new category of infractions introduced which is aimed at reducing cynical and deliberate fouling – whereby a player shown a black card would be replaced by a substitute.

    The following fouls have been identified as black card offences:
    1) To deliberatively pull down an opponent.
    2) To deliberately trip an opponent with hand, arm or foot.
    3) To deliberately body collide with an opponent after he has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking him out of the movement of play.
    4) To use abusive or provocative language or gestures towards players.
    5) To remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a match official.

    The current yellow-card system would remain in place and other fouls deemed worthy of a caution are not affected by the proposed 'black card' rule.

    Under the proposal, should a team pick up a fourth black card in a game, that player could not be replaced.

    Three black cards or three double yellow cards for an individual in any one grade in the same year will lead to a one-match suspension, except where this would apply to an All-Ireland final.

    In that case, a one-match suspension is carried forward to the subsequent match. The number of substitutions would also be raised from five to six.

    The FRC originally proposed that a player found guilty of a yellow-card offence would be replaced for the remainder of the match, but it was thought that this would struggle to gain the required two-thirds majority at Congress.

    In response to a query last night, a GAA source confirmed that in any scenario where a player who was on a yellow card subsequently committed a black card offence, the player in question would go off without being replaced. This again would tally with the FRC's stated desire to discourage cynical fouling.

    If approved by Congress, the proposals would apply from January 1, 2014.

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    That's a very good article by Dolan on the disparity of government funding to the GAA in relation to Soccer which he rightly points out has greater participation than the auld bog ball.

    Mind you, if you take that one on, you're taking on FF, FG, the Farmers, the Church, the Gaah and on and on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wedwood View Post
    Mind you, if you take that one on, you're taking on FF, FG, the Farmers, the Church, the Gaah and on and on.
    Fuck them. Take them on. We've beaten them before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wedwood View Post
    Mind you, if you take that one on, you're taking on FF, FG, the Farmers, the Church, the Gaah and on and on.
    At least three of the above named institutions are dying a slow and painful death, whether they know it or not...

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    [QUOTE=Wedwood;156623]

    Mind you, if you take that one on, you're taking on FF, FG, the Farmers, the Church, the Gaah and on and on.[/QUOT

    You forgot the Sinners and RTE.

    FXXX them all fats is right.
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    This is just getting more and more perverse. It is now blatantly obvious that it's yet another case of GAA supporters completely ignoring the blatant truth as they twist the facts in order to "look after one of their own". Depression is a seriously debilitating illness. You do NOT suffer from severe depression and then captain a county minor football team. Hogwash. "Depression" is just an utterly pathetic excuse used by GAA followers who refuse to believe that one of their stars can do anything wrong. If justice is seen to prevail, the mob will be out on the streets in a Quinn-like protest, not just defending the murderer, but seeking to canonise him.

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    Murder charge son pays respects to dad

    Prayers were said for a teenage GAA star who allegedly killed his father as a grief-stricken community paid its final respects to Aloysius Hackett. The 60-year-old was buried amid emotional scenes yesterday, five days after being found shot dead at his home near Augher in Co Tyrone. His youngest son, Sean, has been charged with his murder.

    Yesterday, the teenager, who captained the Tyrone minor football team last season, was granted temporary release to attend the funeral. Compassionate bail was granted in accordance with his family's wishes.He was chaperoned by Tyrone boss Mickey Harte and his solicitor Adrian O'Kane throughout his brief release, and did not speak to his family, as ordered by a court.

    A placard of support had been placed outside a supermarket on the main road into the village ahead of his arrival. It read: "We're all thinking of you Sean". St Macartan's Church was packed for the midday service, with many of the mourners spilling outside. There was silence as the coffin was carried inside the chapel by relatives, including Mr Hackett's two other sons, Kevin and Conor. Draped on the coffin was an Augher GAA jersey.

    Sean was absent from the family group which entered the church. He arrived separately and was swiftly escorted through a side entrance. Chief celebrant Fr Michael McCaughey, a relative of the family, prayed for Mr Hackett's wife, Eilish, and four children – including Sean. He said no-one knew why the tragedy had occurred. Fr McCaughey described Aloysius as a "GAA man" who made a major contribution to his local club both on and off the pitch. He said the community had been stunned and saddened by the tragedy.

    After the Mass, the family was escorted outside for the burial which was private. After it finished, Sean was escorted back to Hydebank Young Offenders' Centre. Mr Hackett was found dead in the back yard of his home shortly before midnight on Friday. The teenager appeared at Omagh Magistrates' Court on Tuesday, where it emerged he suffered from depression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karlsruhe hoop View Post
    Depression is a seriously debilitating illness. You do NOT suffer from severe depression and then captain a county minor football team.
    There's plenty of people that suffer from depression, that lead a normal day to day life (thats normal in the eyes of everyone else).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iommi View Post
    There's plenty of people that suffer from depression, that lead a normal day to day life (thats normal in the eyes of everyone else).
    Absolutely – but captaining a county minor football team is hardly "normal". Whatever I might think about the GAA, that is a position that involves serious dedication, drive, ambition, strength, energy etc.

    To have all that, but then suddenly put forward depression as an argument when you murder someone simply doesn't add up.

    I haven't seen one word of condemnation over this murder. He is being placed way, way, way above every other murderer in Ireland – be they junkie, common criminal or street thug. That's wrong. He's a murderer – just like the rest of them. But the GAA "community" want us to think otherwise.

    If a junkie committed a murder when robbing someone, but then claimed "depression" he would be laughed out of it. Although it's actually far more likely that a junkie WOULD suffer from depression, I would think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karlsruhe hoop View Post
    Absolutely – but captaining a county minor football team is hardly "normal".
    Robert Enke? Paul McGrath? Gary Speed?

    There's plenty of people who don't lead a "normal" life that suffer from depression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iommi View Post
    Robert Enke? Paul McGrath? Gary Speed?

    There's plenty of people who don't lead a "normal" life that suffer from depression.
    Not only did none of the above murder anyone – they would also be possibly the least likely to do so. That is my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karlsruhe hoop View Post
    they would also be possibly the least likely to do so.
    How do you know ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ste View Post
    How do you know ?
    Bit of an expert as it happens!

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    Quote Originally Posted by karlsruhe hoop View Post
    Not only did none of the above murder anyone – they would also be possibly the least likely to do so. That is my point.
    No it wasn't. You're point was, you don't suffer from depression and then excell at Sport.

    Quote Originally Posted by karlsruhe hoop View Post
    You do NOT suffer from severe depression and then captain a county minor football team. Hogwash.

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